Reflections on Spirit of the Age, Part 2

Perhaps it might seem that I am spending too much time on this word, but I think it is important that words such as this, if adjudged genuine, are responded to.

The original word can be found here, and the first part of the reflection, here.

This second part deals with possible practical responses, which for us is very much a work in progress.  So look on this as a very local response – your mileage may differ:

• We (that is, my wife and I) think the two main things to be drawn from this message are :

(i) A need for a deeper loving community of believers,

(ii) A fellowship where possessions are to be used for God’s, rather than our own glory.

• The question for us is how to actually accomplish this?  How do we sing the Lord’s song in a strange land?  So, here are some of our loose thoughts on the matter.  The beginnings of a conversation, certainly not a blueprint!

• Our initial thoughts were about a physically centred community setting – a place where people could come and share common life, worship, possessions etc. However, we have expanded on that concept.  We want to know also how we can be community, be church in the geographically dispersed places in which we live! After all, geographically centred physical community is not something that may actually be possible for many people, and possibly not accessible to many.  We have to be salt and light where we are.

• We also have considered some kind of register of possessions, and of talents that people are willing to freely share, for example fixing computers (my tent-making ministry!), lending transport, gardening etc – your imagination is the limit! (I would be interested to know if anybody’s church actually does something like this at the moment?)

-This would serve 4 purposes

1)  We would use what God has given us in a more efficient and graceful way.

2)  We would begin to possess our possessions less.

3)  In so doing we would build fellowship and trust with each other.

4)  We may begin to trust God more.

Note that this is not about giving things up, denying ourselves in an ascetic way; it is more about reaching out to others, and discovering the joy of giving.

• We also initially thought about the concept of some kind of common purse (see Acts 2.42). Basically, not only holding our possessions in common, but all our money too – where all earnings would go into a common pot out of which every person would be given according to their needs. So those who were earning could support those who weren’t, or who were struggling financially. I think it’s true to say that most peoples wallets are less converted than they would like to believe (ours included).  Would you dare to give and receive in that way?  It might help move us to a whole different place with God and each other.

• However, on considering this common purse idea further, we wondered whether this would allow all the freedom of generosity?  That is not to say that it is an idea to be dismissed.  Rather, that there are other ways to achieve the goal.  What would be the goal?  Our thought is that the goal of a common purse is not one of sharing money for its own sake.  It’s more about sharing ourselves, entering into deeper fellowship, firstly with God, and then with each other.  This is all about being relational, not functional, about faith and trust.

• So, common purse is entirely valid.  However, equally valid is generous giving and distribution from something like a discretionary fund.  This would allow those blessed with financial resource to be able to help those in need – both within and outside our immediate Church.  This concept also allows for Godly generosity from each person, which could be in danger of being stifled within a common purse.

• Indeed, why could we not consider a discretionary fund type idea as replacing some of our insurance policies?  Perhaps we rely too heavily on this insurance?  Perhaps we could move to a place where we could joyfully meet each others needs?

• Nobody should feel pressurised to do this sort of thing; it should only be a free option to those who want to enter into this kind of covenant relationship.

• Also, how about the concept of some kind of daily office – such as they do in many Anglican (and other) churches and religious communities throughout the world, such as the Northumbria Community? A simple liturgy of a few moments, with a different bible reading at each office. This could be done either at home, and/or at the church itself.  The purpose?  To bind us together in worship of Him and in reading His Word.  We would know that we shared something – literally that we stood before God alone together. Again, this should never be forced, only an option for those who wish it.

 So – is this all a hopelessly naive pipe-dream?  Yes, possibly.  More on that as I wrap up these thoughts next time round…..

The Northumbria Community Mother House
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…when there is no peace

I don’t know if I have a masochistic streak or something, but I genuinely do try to reach out to the ‘liberal’ camp – we may fundamentally disagree on much, but I think it’s important to keep some lines of communication open.  I’ve met some pretty decent people that way.

Today, I thought perhaps there may have been just a small moment where I was able to ‘connect’ with some.  Just for a moment.  I was wrong.  We are little more than domestic abusers, apparently.  Here, have the 2006 award for ridiculous hyperbole.

I would be honoured to have the laws used against me to punish me and to help those others ‘suffering’ under this ‘abuse’.  The last thing I would want is for people to be ‘complicit in their own abuse’ – that would never do.

I don’t know, I really don’t understand it.  Some wonder why I see a divorce inevitable? 

Lord, have mercy on us, foolish sinners all.

(With all apologies for the rant – I’ll post something more substantial soon.)

UPDATE: But then it all twists around again with a great post on grace.  I don’t really know what to make of it.  A curates egg, perhaps…. 

Anyway, that got me thinking a bit more, and it seems to me that grace makes it all the more imperative that we preach Christ as the Way, the Truth and the Life.  Preaching Christ as a way, amongst various valid ways is to deny the very efficacy of grace. It’s either grace through His blood, or mere wish-fulfillment on our part.

The way I understand it is that until He is in us, and we in Him, to the point that we can say ‘I am not my own, I have been bought with a price’, then justice and grace are not reconciled.  But when we really are at that point then grace fulfils justice.  Or to put it another way grace both fulfils and breaks the curse of karma, just as the witches deep magic was fulfilled and broken by Aslans deeper magic.

Well, anyway, that’s just my best understanding. You will probably be pleased to know that my brief foray into atonement theology will now cease.  🙂

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Peace, peace….

 Yes, the PoR report on the diocese of NewWest is out. 

One has to wonder if it was worth the effort.  I feel kind of sorry for the panel – they have an almost hopeless job.  I’ll leave others to do the detailed dissecting, my only observation is that it is like one crying ‘peace, peace’ – when there is no peace.  The recommendations all appear to rely on a goodwill that is manifestly absent. 

What fellowship does light have with darkness?

UPDATE: Anglican Network in Canada responds 

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October?

October?  If U2 had been Calgarian that song would be called ‘September’.

In fact, we are due to get our first taste of winter on Monday with sub-zero maximums and snow.  A massive low pressure system over Hudsons bay is pulling cold air down over Canada.  You wimps in the States are getting an appropriately modified version 😉

(Sorry, but I did say you might get a bit of weather mixed in here; I used to be a meteorologist y’know….)

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Sacrifices to continue

From what little glimpses of Gods’ character I have had, I have beheld the burning intensity of both love and holiness; mercy and justice.  I do not know how they are held together, but they are.  I think this is why the prophets of old had an almost schitzophrenic revelation – moving from the burning fire of judgement to the burning heart of love, and back again.  Words do not adequately describe.

Thinking of this, and in light of a nations refusal to turn from sacrificing their children to molech, I wonder Lord, how long?  How long can we escape judgment?  How do You stand it, how do You reconcile mercy and judgment?  It is beyond me.

I wonder whether the US Supreme Courts’ failure to turn from some 30-odd years of infamy could be a tipping point?  I do not know, but I do think this kind of thing is more important to a nations spiritual state than we give credit for.

Neither Israel or Judah were spared, do we think it will be different for us?

Pray that we might yet turn, before it is too late.

I’m not even going to discuss Canada.  Here, I believe you can effectively get an abortion any time, for any reason.  That status quo is not even up for debate.

Lord have mercy, Christ have mercy, Lord have mercy.

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Profound insult to Christ?

One of the things I do when reading the Anglican Journal is to turn to the letters page just to see what people are saying.  Lately, the Journal seems to have given up all pretence at being impartial and as such almost all letters are from the liberal side.

 One letter, that can be seen here (second to last), was most revealing.  The letter is generally about radical inclusion, unity and sex-obsession, the sort of thing I have seen before.  However, after admonishing us to stay unified and not ‘insult Christ’, Elizabeth Loweth then seeks to call us back to the Church’s ‘real work’:

It is time now for the church to unite in its real work: poverty, health, education and the environment.

That, my friends, is what the problem is!  Not our sex-obsession, power, control, hatred of women or gays etc.  It’s the fundamental disagreement as to what Church is really all about.

I think a better definition of the Churches ‘real work’ can be found in Matthew 28 v19-20:

19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

Poverty, health, education and the environment are things Christians should address – they are important.  But any commitment to them should flow out of the primary mission of the Church.

Declaring otherwise is what should be seen as the profound insult to Christ.

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Reflections on Spirit of the Age, Part 1

I’d like to begin some reflections on the word that was given here.  It is a key prophecy, both for me, our local church and quite possibly wider afield.  As ever, let the reader judge.

The prophecy was given in January 2004.  The following May we began to formulate some kind of response to it.  I think it’s fair to say that both it and I remain very much a work in process.  I am very grateful that the Master Carpenter is in charge, even if I do need reminding on occasion, and all will be accomplished in the outworking of His plan!

So, with no further ado, here’s Part 1.

• How shall we respond to this call?  What does it mean?  How then shall we live?

• This prophecy (as in scripture) requires an actual response – it’s not simply sentiment.

• At the same time, an impetuous response will not help.  Prayer and reflection is required, both on the veracity of the message, and on our response to it.

• This needs to be a group-effort – no one person has ‘the answers’.

• The message itself is plain enough, and is a challenge to our lifestyles and way of living.  God is calling His own back to Himself; salt and light in a time of darkness.  The message is strong, and is intended to be so.  When you see someone running towards a cliff edge you do not gently talk to them about why it may be unwise to keep going.  You shout ‘stop’!  It’s not that He does not love us; it’s that He loves us more than we can ever imagine.  And where there is darkness, he calls us out into the light of His presence, where no darkness can be.

• Why this message now?  It is my personal conviction that God is bringing forth a new Church, a revival of things of old, separating the righteous from the unrighteous (understand that I am talking about the Righteousness of Christ, not of ourselves).  Separating those who truly have faith, and want that faith to have substance, from those who now follow their own paths.  I believe that he is using many things to accomplish this, even those who are currently preaching unbelief.  We should not be worried or anxious; it is ordained of Him who moves all things for His glory.  We should simply stand in love and fellowship and wait on Him.

• We should not be concentrating on the birth pangs, but on what should be born.  When I asked the Lord about the situation, the reply I received was: “I will raise up new leaders”, along with a sense of God’s plans already being put into place and moving, and that we are to prophetically look ahead to what will be, not at the current situation.  Stand in love, not in critical judgementalism. It may be that many will fall away who seemed strong, while others who seem weak will rise as princes of His people.  So don’t judge on what can be seen, for many are the secrets of our hearts, and the Lord will call whom He will call.

• Now as to what is to be born and raised, that, I think is what the ‘spirit of the age’ seeks to address.  The challenge, as it appears to us now is how to live an authentic Christian life within our cultural setting.

And that, friends, will be the subject of Part 2…..

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Don Martin falls a little short of the mark

There is a certain danger in commenting on something that you obviously haven’t a clue about.

This was my brief response.

Hi,
 
I just read your editorial today with some incredulity.  It seems to me that either you are woefully misinformed, or intentionally trying to mislead.
 
I’ll just make two points.
 
“For starters, marriage is a provincial matter and best left to legislatures to legislate. But when the feds did meddle in marriages in their 2005 landmark same-sex legislation, they enshrined ample protection against anyone being forced to perform ceremonies against their faith.”

This is contradictory – as you say marriage is a provincial matter, therefore it’s doubtful to say the least that federal safeguards are worth the paper that they are written on.  If you doubt me, check this: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/nov/05111604.html. (UPDATE:  this is probably a little better http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/jul/05071403.html)
 
“But what about gay newlyweds banned from celebrating their happy union in a hall owned by an anti-same-sex church, one official wondered. Good grief. Has it really come to this sort of extreme theoretical? Besides, what happy homosexual pair would want to hold their reception in a deeply religious congregation’s hall where, aside from being a sinful coupling in the landlord’s eyes, there probably isn’t any booze allowed either?”

Sorry to say, but it’s only extremely theoretical if you’re extremely ignorant of the facts.  http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/dec/05120901.html

I could go on, but I hope you get the idea.

Peter

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The current conflict

I remain convinced that we are currently engaged in a war.  Not the conventional sort – the protagonists are strange and the methods unorthodox.  But, a war nonetheless.

How else can you understand the de facto alliance between those who would hide behind liberal tolerance (when indeed they are anything but) and those one would expect to be their avowed enemies?  In this not more than passing strange?

Of course, Ephesians 6 says: 12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

I wonder how many of us live as though our struggle was indeed against flesh and blood?  How many of us fight against this radical organisation or that activist court and fail to see what lies beneath?  Do our prayers miss the mark as a result?

That is not to say that we shouldn’t seek justice and righteousness, of course we should.  Just that sometimes it seems to me that we’re so busy fighting the immediate that we miss the bigger picture.

We fight for our charters and constitution and bemoan the fact that ‘freedom of religion’ becomes ‘freedom from religion’, that implicitly discovered rights trump explicitly written ones. But at what point do these laws become idols for us?  They are, at the end, no more than imperfect man-made laws subject to the whim of fallible humans.  They will not save us.

Indeed, a friend of mine once said that the introduction of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms would mean the end to both.  It guarantees nothing, as seen by the reality here in Canuckistan. 

Jesus said that in this world, we would have trouble.  That the world will hate us.  So it’s no surprise when it actually does.   But be of good heart – for He overcame the world.

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Annoying….

Is there nothing so incredibly annoying as writing a whole post, thinking ‘I’d better save this so I don’t lose it’, then finding that the save button totally wipes it out?

Grumble.

 Right – I’ll try again.

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