Which spirit, exactly?

If anybody doubted what we are struggling against, the following quote from Canadian Archbishop Ted Scott should prove illuminating:

“If we are to be the church in the world, then we cannot ignore the force of secular cultural pressures in decision-making., and it is at least as powerful as scripture and tradition. It is the channel ā€“ the spirit of the age ā€“ through which the Holy Spirit is trying to say something to the church. It cannot simply be dismissed, whether opponents like it or not”

Yes, you did read that correctly.

h/t MCJ.

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8 Responses to Which spirit, exactly?

  1. kclick says:

    Sadly, it seems secular culture is venerated more than Scripture.


  2. faithwalk says:

    Oh my my, I can’t believe I just read that! How sadly appropriate as we know what spirit it is that is speaking here.
    May God help us all.
    What more can be said…

    Blessings to you Peter,



  3. mcalmond says:

    It sounds like what He is clearly promoting is not our being the church “in” the world, but rather, our becoming the church “of” the world.

    No surprise here I guess, except that it continues to come forth so obviously and to be clearly stated, in black and white.

    There is so very much more to come, as they, those who genuinely are reflecting the spirit of this age, grow in their being clearly controlled and dominated by this very spirit that seems to increasingly dominate this very age in which we live.

    When you can be jailed for simply handing out Bibles to anyone who wants them (Florida), or face felony charges (for up to 47 yrs) for repeating the scriptures and what they say regarding Homosexuality to others, out loud, publicly (Philadelphia) and grandmothers can be arrested for witnessing to others on the public street (Philadelphia), it is no wonder that national church leaders can say these kinds of things, for all of this is not only a sign of the times in which we live, but also a sign of the spirit of the age.

    We need to awaken to the truth of what is going on around us, discerning the times and rising up in prayer, faith and hope, preparing for what is ahead, right before us, even now, while we still can.

    Every Blessing in the Lord Jesus Christ!


  4. MattJP says:

    wow – Strong words. Unfortunately some will read them and think he is progressive and forward thinking and that his thought needs to be embraced. At least it’s revealing though.

    BTW – I’m a long time reader, first time commenter. I really enjoy your blog! Keep up the good work – I’m always encouraged here.


  5. timbob says:

    Greetings. WOW! I know that such statements shouldn’t catch us off guard as these are perilous times, but still…WOW! I can’t help but wonder why so many saints fail to see the closeness of the hour. The coming together of a global governing entity complete with its own form of religion designed to “make merchandise” using feined words in a user-friendly format.
    Tonight, on his radio broadcast, Steve Quayle was talking about the time when the saints will have to exit the worlds system. Not conform to it as this man is saying, but to exit completely it’s mechanisms. Thanks for posting this. May any who read this post be awakened as to just how perilous these times are.

    have a blessed evening in Christ.



  6. Diana says:

    This Archbishop is wrong. Just where did he get his ‘message’ from?
    We need to be so vigilant.


  7. Marg Ellen says:

    The most interesting thing to note about the author of that quote is that Ted Scott was the Primate of Canada some 30 years ago. At that time his vision of the church was seen to be “progressive” and applauded.
    The Holy Spirit certainly was trying to speak to us at that time but we misinterpreted the message and married the spirit of the age. We forgot we are to be in the world, not of it. We fight an old and ancient battle present in every age. I am thankful for prophets like you, Pete, who call us back to our “first love”.
    Bless you!


  8. Peter says:

    Ouch, now this is what happens when I don’t keep track of the blog šŸ˜‰

    kclick – we have more than a smattering of the world in our Church šŸ˜¦

    Susan – I know, hard to beleive, but there you go!

    Phil – The embarressing thing is when the Church starts to overtake the world down the slippery slope – all in the name of being progressive and enlightened of course!

    MattJP – Welcome, thanks for taking the time to comment šŸ™‚ Glad to know I’ve encouraged you too!

    Timbob – I agree, this is unusual candour from folks who usually cloak their meaning in Christianspeak. The scary thing is that this is a quote from a long time ago – I’ve only just got hold of it though.

    Diana – I think we know where he got that message from, eh?

    Marg Ellen – I’m surprised folk didn’t pick up on that a while back, perhaps it was well hidden – or just perhaps I wasn’t paying attention šŸ™‚

    Blessings on you all!



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